Joestove Bio Gasifier
Greetings-Good to be on board with you all!
My friend here Luc got me interested in wood gasification a few months back. Luc is doing the final tweaking on his GEK system. He is part of the wood gas forum.
Since the summer of 2005, I've discovered a new flame process that spins fire inside of a tube creating a type of endothermic reaction. Basically you charge up a tube with air and propane, light the mix, then gradually pull back on the controls until the flame 'pops' into the pipe. Since last August I've uploaded well over 300 vids to u tube under the title search of 'joepipe.' Prior to using propane I've played with gas, diesel, alcohol. In these early tests I've seen copper, stainless steel and titanium stock become thermally superconductive. When you see copper turn titanium into mush, and blue fire collapse into a pip point of white light. You know that you're on to something that is not part of the conventional mainstream of thinking.
The big question is, will the joe pipe run on wood gas? If so, this would provide a viable source of superheated air in excess of 2, 000 F. If a joe pipe were to be made out of a castable materials, the exhaust heat alone should be able to melt steel. The main purpose of the joe pipe is to generate an unlimited supply of super heated air for any and all devices requiring heat. This would include grills, stove-tops, ovens, water heaters, space heaters, steamers and possible heat engines. If would gas can be used as a viable fuel for the joe pipe, this would open up a whole new way of thinking concerning the application of wood gasification.
The joe pipe is able to use the speed of the fuel to generate thermal cavitation and resonance. So far I have discovered up to 7 flame level going from thermal into the low end of plasma. This may be to the phase changing of the fuel itself. Vortex propulsion has been developed by Los Alamos and has been proven to been proven to been highly efficient. The joe pipe tends to generate 'torsion field' energy as part of its natural characteristic.
What I envision here is a type of bio gasifier that is crossed with a rocket stove. Something that can be side fed and is of a castable design using refractory. My intuitive feelings on using only wood gas, is the this will generate a much higher spin. May even crack the wood gas into the plasma state. Then the nitrogen which is in the wood gas would now become a inert gas for the plasma state.
The joe pipe technology came to me in a dream four years ago. In a second dream I was told, 'That there will be three steps involved. The first step would be the perfection of the fuel, and that this would lead to the discovery of a unlimited heat source, then to unlimited energy or electricity. My best guess is that when the joe pipe has gone quantum when using gas and alcohol. Is that a 'wormhole' or 'doorway' has opened up to a higher field of energy. This is now being discovered by mainstream science to be true. The their is unlimited energy in the vacuum of space. In the times that I have seen the joe pipe go quantum, the metal always becomes fully transparent within a blink of an eye while producing this plasma type of ejection. Imagine blowing alcohol vapor through a McDonald's straw and producing a plasma type of flame ten times the size of a plasma torch? It is difficult to say at this point how 'wood gas' will respond in the joe pipe. The highest internal temperatures reached without any type of insulation is 1, 307 C and 1, 250 C at the mouth where there is no flame.
It is easy enough to envision that wood gas going through the joe pipe making contact with the open air will burn. What you want to see is if adding 'outside air' through a T at the base of the pipe will be able to pull in the flame to what I call a Level 3 Flame or L3 F? Once the flame is burning inside the joe pipe you can then crank up both the air and the fuel. Back flash may be a problem here. If the wood gas and air are added at independently, this should prevent back burning. Okay, that's my application of using wood gas to generate super heated exhaust. I'm open for any comments, questions that you may have and to begin designing a system that will be compatible to running a joe pipe. Thanks, Joshua.
My friend here Luc got me interested in wood gasification a few months back. Luc is doing the final tweaking on his GEK system. He is part of the wood gas forum.
Since the summer of 2005, I've discovered a new flame process that spins fire inside of a tube creating a type of endothermic reaction. Basically you charge up a tube with air and propane, light the mix, then gradually pull back on the controls until the flame 'pops' into the pipe. Since last August I've uploaded well over 300 vids to u tube under the title search of 'joepipe.' Prior to using propane I've played with gas, diesel, alcohol. In these early tests I've seen copper, stainless steel and titanium stock become thermally superconductive. When you see copper turn titanium into mush, and blue fire collapse into a pip point of white light. You know that you're on to something that is not part of the conventional mainstream of thinking.
The big question is, will the joe pipe run on wood gas? If so, this would provide a viable source of superheated air in excess of 2, 000 F. If a joe pipe were to be made out of a castable materials, the exhaust heat alone should be able to melt steel. The main purpose of the joe pipe is to generate an unlimited supply of super heated air for any and all devices requiring heat. This would include grills, stove-tops, ovens, water heaters, space heaters, steamers and possible heat engines. If would gas can be used as a viable fuel for the joe pipe, this would open up a whole new way of thinking concerning the application of wood gasification.
The joe pipe is able to use the speed of the fuel to generate thermal cavitation and resonance. So far I have discovered up to 7 flame level going from thermal into the low end of plasma. This may be to the phase changing of the fuel itself. Vortex propulsion has been developed by Los Alamos and has been proven to been proven to been highly efficient. The joe pipe tends to generate 'torsion field' energy as part of its natural characteristic.
What I envision here is a type of bio gasifier that is crossed with a rocket stove. Something that can be side fed and is of a castable design using refractory. My intuitive feelings on using only wood gas, is the this will generate a much higher spin. May even crack the wood gas into the plasma state. Then the nitrogen which is in the wood gas would now become a inert gas for the plasma state.
The joe pipe technology came to me in a dream four years ago. In a second dream I was told, 'That there will be three steps involved. The first step would be the perfection of the fuel, and that this would lead to the discovery of a unlimited heat source, then to unlimited energy or electricity. My best guess is that when the joe pipe has gone quantum when using gas and alcohol. Is that a 'wormhole' or 'doorway' has opened up to a higher field of energy. This is now being discovered by mainstream science to be true. The their is unlimited energy in the vacuum of space. In the times that I have seen the joe pipe go quantum, the metal always becomes fully transparent within a blink of an eye while producing this plasma type of ejection. Imagine blowing alcohol vapor through a McDonald's straw and producing a plasma type of flame ten times the size of a plasma torch? It is difficult to say at this point how 'wood gas' will respond in the joe pipe. The highest internal temperatures reached without any type of insulation is 1, 307 C and 1, 250 C at the mouth where there is no flame.
It is easy enough to envision that wood gas going through the joe pipe making contact with the open air will burn. What you want to see is if adding 'outside air' through a T at the base of the pipe will be able to pull in the flame to what I call a Level 3 Flame or L3 F? Once the flame is burning inside the joe pipe you can then crank up both the air and the fuel. Back flash may be a problem here. If the wood gas and air are added at independently, this should prevent back burning. Okay, that's my application of using wood gas to generate super heated exhaust. I'm open for any comments, questions that you may have and to begin designing a system that will be compatible to running a joe pipe. Thanks, Joshua.
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Comment by Radam on February 26, 2009 at 2:41pm -
I know alot physics and I know most of what you write here makes no sense. At least to me.
As far as I know Browns gas is hydrogen and oxygen mix that burns stoichiometrically at 2,800 °C. Woodgas is a mix of 50% nitrogen about 20% hydrogen and about 30% carbon monoxide. So it would burn at about 1000 maybe.
Nitrogen is NOT an inert gas at those temperatures, it reacts exothermically which produces various NOx-es which are great pollutants.
All the sound you make is not very energetic, considering that a big loudpeakers used on rock concerts (ones 1 meter high) use about 500 to 1000 watts of which only about 10% goes to the sound. And those can really pop your ears.
Over unity, thats the term which walks along perpetual machines. And I dont think gasification is alternative, hokus pokus science.
Implosion created first atomic bombs.
Discontinuations in the flames may not be implosions but simply cutoffs of flame made by that rotating thing in the core.
You cant sublimate metals, you first have to heat them to liquid and then boil them. So its not SOLID STATE!
Endothermic reactions cools things.
Incomplete combustion produces carbon monoxide which is also main part of the woodgas. Its toxic and can cause NEUROLOGICAL damage and HALLUCINATIONS among other things.
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Comment by Taylor on February 26, 2009 at 1:34pm -
Hi Radam-Thankyou for your comments.
When I worked for a steel company many years ago, my job there was to cut scrap steel using a 4 ft. torch. Been around torches all my life. Know how they work. All torches work on one principle and that is combustion process is external and exothermic. Brown's Gas is an endothermic with a flame propagation of nearly 10, 000 ft. per second. Brown's gas is able to melt and vaporize any known substance even diamond. In understanding the difference between endothermic and exothermic reactions is key to understanding how the joe pipe works. Using propane, the percentage of endothermic reaction is about 60 percent. Like brown's gas, all metals can be heated to past the red point touching on yellow. Even soapstone will turn orange. If a faster fuel was used like hydrogen, this would raise the endothermic reaction higher.
Another aspic of the joe pipe is that the internal flame is not laminer. It tends to spin. On a number of occasions I've seen a blue flame front collapse into a pinpoint of white hot plasma indicating that a full endothermic reaction had occurred leaving a wake of oxygen. The endothermic process has characteristics that are equal to and yet opposite of exothermic reactions. The hotter the fuel the faster the spin. Implosion generates oxygen as the by product. Explosion requires oxygen to sustain combustion.
The joe pipe is short is able to take a exothermic fuel and convert it into a endothermic reaction depending on the propagation rate of the fuel. Many times I've seen where copper, stainless steel and titanium have sublimated to the boiling point of the metal and yet remain in the solid state. The greatest gifting that the joe pipe has, is the ability to generated multiple resonant frequencies. Tesla, Schueburger, Russel and Keely were well aware of what sound can do. John Hutchenson has also used sound to levitate and to spin objects. Sound has been used to crack water to produce 29, 000 psi hydrogen. The joe pipe is the perfect variable signal generator for creating multiple harmonics. Goes much beyond being just a over sized blow torch.
After four years of testing with at least a thousand hours invested, I'm still learning and discovering new flame levels and properties. If you superheat the air and propane prior to combustion using a modified version of the joe pipe, the thermal energy changes into a plasma. I've seen oxygen added in this particular test that caused the interior of the joe pipe to be filled with hundreds of sustained lighting strikes. The GEET system by Paul Pantone also has been investigated to have many scientifically proven anomolies.
If wood gas can be used as a fuel it doesn't matter about the tars. The process of the flame should make for 100 percent clean combustion. One thing that I have noticed where wood pellets were gasified and injected into the joe pipe. Was that uncombustied wood gas could be seen coming out of the end of the flame. The joe pipe can be tuned to where the flame can be confined to just a few inches. At the same time the remainder of the pipe is full of superheated exhaust. Now what would happen if you pumped a large volume of wood gas through the flame front? Will it ignite? As the oxygen is already sustaining a flame, the wood gas should pass through the flame front and crack any of the tars present. All you need to do is to tap off the wood gas that is coming out the end of the pipe. Steam could be added to reform some of the co2 into hydrogen. Just a thought here.
If the joe pipe were to be insulated or made out of a refractory material, this should raise the internal temps well past 2, 500 F. With this kind of heat, waste oil could be flashed into an oil vapor and reformed into a syngas. Lots of possibilities as the heat can be contained. If a doubled wall pipe is used, you could generated very large amounts of super heated steam. If wood gas does indeed be a viable fuel for the joe pipe, and if refractory is used. You would have a super heated hot air source for running any type of heating device. It's worth a try. In most of the anomoles that have taken place over the years propane was not used as the fuel. Gas, diesel and alcohol may have produced a number of serious over unity results. Implosion dynamics is a field yet unventured in the world of science. Bottom line here. To be able to run the joe pipe on wood gas as an alternate form of thermal and acoustic energy. The sound is much more incredible than the thermal. At least I've found it interesting knowing that there are new flame discoveries waiting to be found. Just need the gasifier that will generate the fuel. The vids on u tube do not clearly show the internal operations. You really have to see it to really get a graps. Thanks again for your comments. Joshua.
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Comment by Radam on February 26, 2009 at 12:05pm
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I dont want do be mean but It seems you actually just build an enormous torch. You are only lucky that the internal temperatures are low enough so the steel doesnt melt. Typical acetylene torch flame gets to 3,000 °C, propane doesnt get as hot, about 2,500.
So it seems you are adding to much air, on the assumption that it is complete combustion. Actually the design is somewhat similar to the combustors in the gas turbines. And intake temperatures for them are in the 1200 to 1500 °C too. So mounting a turbine onto it may be possible.
But I dont see anything revolutionary here. prove me wrong if you can.
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Comment by Eric Schrack on February 25, 2009 at 10:56pm - Welcome aboard, Taylor. I've been in the fabrication industry for 15 years now. This is all new and very interesting to me. I've finally settled on one of my own designs and plan to start fabrication this weekend. I should have some pictures posted on my page nexy week. The Joe Pipe sounds very cool, I'll definitly be checking out your posts on you tube. Welcome again.
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